This seems to be moving forward and most likely will be aproved this summer. The question is, is the Ivy league moving past the hard 4-year eligibility rule?
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Not bloody likely.
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I doubt the Ivy League will make a change but the NCAA change to five years of eligibility will mean a reduction in the number of undergraduates given the opportunity to play their sports. Is that a good thing?
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I am wondering how the new rule will affect kids who opt to do a post-grad prep school year before entering college, given that it seems a significant number of Ivy athletes do so.
I think it would work against the amount of college athletic eligibility. The clock starts at 19 years of age or high school graduation with a few exceptions.
For ivies to allow this they are going to have to come up with new grad programs, stanford and nd have been doing this for awhile.
Ethan Roberts had several great looking one year masters programs to choose from, he is doing business analytics and ai.
Ivies could put together one year compelling courses if they wanted to.
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I cannot tell how ivies will respond. We know the one(s) who don’t have graduate professional schools would feel disadvantged, but I wonder how many athletes use those schools as opposed to nonprofessional courses for their graduate eligibility. I imagine Wharton gets some but don’t know about others. Establishing nonprofessional schools might not be such a burden.
Wondering, not opining.
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Ivies need to have consortium grad programs, imagine a hybrid online (mostly) and in person degree across schools. Status quo doesnt work. Wharton mba is really impossible due to all the group work outside of class hours. Plus really discourage direct entry from college without experience and overall super high admissions standards. Grad work in school of education is possible, know several ex ivy and stanford athletes who pursued for career goals, our star during covid was going to persue for extra year granted but by thetime ivies decided it was too late, she went to uva.
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The Ivy faculties find intercollegiate sports barely tolerable. I think there is zero chance that they’ll start creating new graduate programs to facilitate extra sports eligibility. And I’m not aware of material trustee or alumni interest in doing so either.
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I concur. Lots of issues with 5 in 5 at ivies
5 in 5 makes zero sense for a masters program you have to pay for.
Not a lot of financial aid available either unlike ugrad
I think most P4-level kids will wait until 19 to enter college, so we may see more “holding back” at the high school level rather than traditional prep years.
Columbia appears to be exploring an alternate interpretation of how the coming “5-in-5” framework could work within the Ivy League structure. The transfer of former Purdue and Stanford forward Mary Ashley Stevenson, a rising senior and former Big Ten Freshman of the Year, is an interesting early test case. She may be the first rising senior transfer ever to enter an Ivy League program for basketball, and possibly for any sport.
What makes the situation especially intriguing is that Stevenson, who has already played three full seasons of college basketball, classifies herself as Class of 2028, implying two academic years remaining until graduation, while her remaining NCAA and Columbia athletic eligibility remains less clear.
A lot of the discussion in this thread and elsewhere still applies pre–5-in-5 assumptions around eligibility clocks, transfer timing, and academic progression. Stevenson could become a fascinating case study in how one Ivy institution is adapting to the changing landscape, and whether other Ivy schools choose to evolve their own eligibility frameworks in response.
As another example, many Ivy institutions have programs where undergraduates can begin work on graduate degrees concurrently with their undergraduate studies while still paying undergraduate tuition rates. The Stevenson transfer suggests there may be more flexibility within the “5-in-5” system than is generally understood.
According to this article, there’s been a modification to the 5-in-5 framework. The clock is now set to start with the student-athlete’s first enrollment in college or at the start of the academic year following their 19th birthday, rather than high school graduation, which removes the penalty anyone electing to do a postgrad year would have faced in the original proposal.