Jack has entered portal. Ill wager he comes to Penn
giddyup
Drop the bag.
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If he was for sure coming to Penn, wouldn’t he just enter as “do not contact”?
I spoke to him amidst the on court celebration sunday, i jokingly said “now you have to come here and go to wharton” and he very seriously said “im thinking about it”
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Penn already operates like a non-Ivy when it comes to basketball, what’s their 7th transfer in 3 years? Forget AI and financial aid when you have an admin who doesn’t care about league principles and rich donors to run your collective.
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“League Principles” LOLOL! You mean the principles that allow the schools with the biggest endowments and smaller enrollments to create a de facto scholarship system that gives them a structural advantage over the other 5 schools. And no one has more rich donors than HYP–that’s how Amaker is by far the highest paid coach in the league, in a deal no other Ivy team would give. OK.
Listen bro - I’m a Ivy grad school grad so not undergrad dog in the fight. But Penn is taking kids from Kirkwood Community College - a school with 100% acceptance and 36% graduation rate - and wants to be taken seriously as an Ivy. They’ve given that program carte blanche to operate like an A10 - something the other schools at least still think they’re above doing.
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I think it is really charming to see someone who thinks they’re breaking new ground when they’re just repeating the same thing fans at other schools have been saying for 40+ years.
Repeating the truth you mean. HYP have taken 1 combined transfer in the last 2 decades. Penn has taken 6 in the last 2-3 offseasons including two from junior colleges with a 7th on the way with McCaffery. It’s cool if that’s the way Penn feels like they need to win, but just know that they’re hurting the perception of the school when you’re adding guys from “Mineral Area Community College” (real school)
Of course, you know absolutely nothing about the credentials of the transfers. I assume that you don’t question a guy who has been at Duke and UVA. Or a guy who had been at West Point. So what precisely are you questioning?
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Undoubtedly, you’re right. I can’t imagine the impact admissions will feel when prospective students find out some of their classmates might not have gone to a venerated private school and instead may have had (shudder) a different life experience that led them to Penn. Oh, the wailing and gnashing of teeth. Oh, the agony.
Look, I know the team has had only moderate Ivy relevance since AJ Brodeur graduated but I do think the trash talking should have evolved beyond the same old hoary cliches from 1980.
Lol you guys are clearly riding the high of the win so you’re not gonna see it any other way. If you wanna act like you’re providing opportunities to deserving kids and not just skirting Ivy AI rules, by all means. We know the venerable institutions of Mercer University (70% acceptance rate) and Cal St. Northridge (93% acceptance rate), not to mention the two Juco kids, Ethan (on his 3rd school, one being Drake), TJ (on his 3rd school) all match up to Ivy level kids I’m sure. If you don’t see the problem in throwing away the integrity of the league..well, hope you enjoy the 3 years with Fran.
I don’t recall there being any Ivy rule on transfers. None. And if you’re not going to take a transfer for basketball when the Portal is taking yours (Penn lost the Ivies’ top scorer since Bill Bradley to a transfer that crippled the team), you’re saying you don’t want to compete in Division 1 basketball. I take it you’d prefer to drop to D-3. Because if you don’t accept transfers (again, not an Ivy rule ever and every Ivy school accepts transfers, even HYP, and if a kid who might not have had the chances to get in from high school does extremely well elsewhere, all of them take transfers), you’re not trying to compete at the Division 1 level.
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If my team just got whipped by 35 points on the national stage, I don’t think I’d be posting so aggressively the very next day.
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Sorry bud I don’t think ivyhoops22 is a Penn fan. Reads more like a Yale or Harvard guy so I’m not sure why he’s posting so aggressively.
So there is absolutely no guarantee that Jack McCaffery is coming to Penn. That’s clear wishcasting. I hope it’s true but if I was ivyhoops22 I wouldn’t let it get him too fired up.
TigerFan, not exactly a world beating run for your Tigers this year. Due to terrible management of Penn basketball Tigers had Penn’s number for far too long but let’s see what happens next year.
In general, this is a silly topic. Ivyhoops22 obviously is a fan of Harvard or Yale and they’ve had significant unfair advantage for sports in financial aid for years (Princeton too). If someone is okay with that disparity based on school decisions, that someone needs to live with other school decisions like a willingness to take transfers.
What is complete bullshit is disparaging Penn players academics based on first school they may have started at - you have zero knowledge of their academics. So no clutching of pearls based on zero knowledge, thanks.
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Each member school brings its own set of relative advantages and disadvantages that coaches must navigate in building their rosters. Some are highly transparent - facilities, location, brand - while others are more opaque, such as financial aid formulas and internal admissions considerations.
A school’s institutional appetite for transfers - shaped by admissions standards, financial aid formulas, and roster philosophy - sets the outer boundary of what’s possible. But within that boundary, a coach’s own willingness to use the portal, and their ability to attract the right players once they do, determines how much of that opportunity actually gets captured.
Using Columbia as an example: Jim Engles was notably transfer-averse over his tenure. His successor Kevin Hovde took three transfers in his first year alone. On the women’s side, Megan Griffith has worked the portal steadily, bringing in five transfers, four from Power Four programs, since 2020 to help build and sustain a top-50 program.
On the women’s side, Harvard and Yale demonstrate that Cambridge and New Haven can compete in the portal when they commit to it. The Crimson landed 5-star McDonald’s All-American McKenzie Forbes from Cal and Big Ten forward Moná Zarić from Indiana. Yale has added Ana Guillen (Wisconsin), Mary Meng (Michigan State), and Luisa Vydrova (UTEP) in back-to-back cycles.
Academic prestige, it turns out, is its own recruiting pitch in the portal era.
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So what we’re saying here is that @ivyhoops22 is a fucking idiot who knows less than nothing about Ivy undergraduate transfer standards.
It is fairly disturbing to read the not-so-subtle implication that Lucas Lueth couldn’t possibly be intelligent enough for or worthy of attending Penn because he attended a community college. By all accounts he is an incredibly thoughtful young man who was Kirkwood’s valedictorian, writes his own poetry and helped pay his way through school by working in the dining hall.
I’d rather every Ivy team have five Lucas Lueths than the nepotistic recruits we’ve seen in this league who are only sitting at the end of the bench because their father is a baseball hall of famer, former secretary of education or deca-billionaire NBA team owner.
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