Mack could have been saved at Harvard for $50,000 from 2 alums but the coach and AD said no. Could you imagine this anywhere else. Anywhere? He would have taken a $300,00 haircut to stay.
Okereke is graduating early.
Lee was gone in January. To the portal and not the NBA. It was unrelated to Brett.
Wolf had a place he would have gone to out of high school above all others. Maize and Blue. He wasn’t offered.
Dingle was never going to be a one off. I posted that on the Voy board and was laughed at.
Ivy players have gotten paid in football and basketball since the 60’s with “summer jobs.” Need I go further with explanation.
I care as much as anyone. I have donated to 2 Ivy basketball programs, but a ton more to Rutgers NIL because there are tangible results.
Why are some people here just denying reality? Coaches can’t stop you. AD’s can’t stop you. Presidents can’t stop you. Can 353 universities be wrong and 10 (Army and Navy) be right. No!
If you care and want to bring the Ivy from 1954 to 2025, then assist the players of the team(s) you care about. You have the power. The next frontier of defections in droves is lacrosse. Megan Griffith fully understands and she is doing all she can. Goodness, she turned down Miami and Georgetown.
IMO the ivy presidents are - properly - dealing with matters far more momentous to our institutions over the long term than how the basketball team will be able to win a first round NCAA game next year. Addressing the athletics issues should not be left to immediate instinctive reaction. No reason to rush this assessment.
I still believe the presidents, if pushed, will find D3 not a terrible alternative. I am not advocating, merely projecting what I think they would do. So to those who find such an outcome distasteful. I recommend not pushing any panic buttons.
to put it bluntly, if we go to D3 as the institutions with the storied histories and money that we have, big p the tiger will never emotionally recover.
i’ve always been of the belief that if the ivy leagues just wanted to poor even the slightest care into sports, we would become the SEC in 5 years. too much alumni money, too many resources, great northeast location–it’d be bound to happen.
can someone confirm whether the xaivian transfer was set in stone since jan tho?
Sparman- I had a series of talks with the Ivy hierarchy in October and then February. I was told that 70% of their time in Fall meetings was on NIL and possible Ivy “solutions”. Yes, 70%. You can’t possibly believe that let’s say President McInnis has more on her plate than Presidents Ono at Michigan or Price at Duke. Nah, not possible. Their jobs are no less weighty. And it is not about one game in March. It is about student-athlete rights. It is about the very fabric of Princeton, which is a mini-Stanford and one of the most successful sports universities in the country and in the world. Princeton has thrived for years on its athletic success. I know many Princeton undergrads. Sports is 100% integral to their Princeton experience.
I don’t think Sparman was saying the
Presidents of non- Ivy schools are
not also facing issues bigger than sports.
I think all college Presidents right now
are wrestling with issues around freedom of
thought, whether diversity initiatives can be
sustained, whether federal funds that support
important innovation can be protected, among
other things.
I love following Ivy sports, but in the current
environment I hope the Presidents are not
spending 70% of their time on athletics.
This is more complicated. The Ivy needs to ready up the inevitable, but you didn’t have to go here defense, as was articulated in Choh in New Haven. There will be lawsuits. It is inevitable. Tortious interference with contractual rights, etc. They are coming. Just listen to what Slajchert has said since he got to USC. See some Malik Mack comments. I’ve hear way more in one on one conversations. The Princeton and Harvard AD’s have made some comments which would be exhibits 1 and 2 in any lawsuit.
And what do you “add” Local? Ad hominem attacks, lies and deception that you refuse to take ownership of! And, frankly, if you were at least a bit more willing to ‘add’ a few more precious bucks into Xaivian’s pocket, you’d be a Princeton hero, instead of the downtrodden local yokel you’ve been your whole miserable life!!!
Stop what? sparman doesn’t need an.interpreter; least of all someone who can’t even spell his name. And you’re a fine one to tell others to stop - the way you went after that black kid from Yale after the A&M game - shameful!
You are right that the Ivy presidents (and many other university leaders) are dealing with issues more momentous than the place of Ivy basketball (and sports more generally) in the new world of college sports. To relate them though, Ivy leaders need to consider that they have isolated their universities from most of society in ways that may be damaging to them. The MAGA right is using issues such as antisemitism as a pretext to damage the elite universities (some in this group may actually care about antisemitism but it surely isn’t one of the animating issues for them). For them, hurting Penn or Columbia or Harvard or Princeton is the goal, not a consequence of some grander issue. The Ivies need support in society beyond their alumni and the Ivy president should include in their mandate looking for ways to make their universities relatable. Making Ivy sports seem more mainstream might be a small piece of that.