Im restarting this conversation that was on the old board.
Who are the undergrad players who will transfer out for $ given the success of Wolf, Perkins, Mack and Anya?
From Penn, im assuming Roberts leaves, he has an nil agent and two years of non ivy eligibility due to redshirt year
After watching the Harvard game , Hinton has to be a possibility and the Southern Cal schools are handing out big bucks.
Id think Pierce and Lee now almost have to go to a power school ond prove something after this season
Im interested in transfers who have additional undergrad eligibility not grad transfers
Lots of Yale possibilities
Iād assume Hinton is gone from Harvard. The Princeton guys know more about Lee and Pierce than I would.
Yale is fascinating. We lose Bez, Poulakidas to graduation but our underclassmen arenāt obvious transfer up candidates. Iād assume Townsend stays given his family history and academic prowess. Simmons already transferred down from Northwestern and seems to have found his level. I know James on here has been hyping up Celiscar as a potential transfer but next year feels premature without a consistent outside jump shot yet and a lack of high-major size. Give him another year of development given his competitiveness and he could command $$$. Aletan has a NIL agent but plays 20 minutes a game and hasnāt shown the dominance yet. Maybe a high-major team bets on his recruiting ratings and high potential.
Roberts is gone. Lee has told people heās going to stay, but who knows.
i am not hyping anyone up as a transferš. i am a yale fan after all.
i was hyping up celiscarās potential tho starting when he committed.
as a noted on the old board 18 mos ago and incessantly since anything is possible.
in tradāl hs recruiting or even in mapping nba draft picks; potential is valued over trailing production.
it is logical to conclude this goes the same way. i think the yale talent track record makes most on their roster worth a look esp should they finish strong and get more natāl publicity.
so anything is possible.
good news for yale is that they have a nice incoming class.
of course they lost great seniors and any addāl attrition is highly problematic.
so far when you can find the diamonds in the rough and develop them- say wolf oni etc- you might lose them early for various reasons but by not flying too close to the sun (see harvards incoming class which has been pillaged by nil) - you replenish talent, and you get younger relevant but not irrelevant.
this is likely the only way unless you can lean into the portal which isnt an option for yale.
good players pushed down to yale in hs recruiting by the portal and win now short termism of the sport is helping offset the pain of the wolfs and whomever is nextā¦weāll see for how long tho?
I donāt see Pierce or Lee transferring. Just my two cents butā¦
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Caden is having a rough junior season - I doubt a high major team gives him a big NIL payday and starting role this offseason. Also, his family seems very financially well off and his brother is a rising NFL star. A low six-figure NIL bag wonāt sway him. That said, Iām certain that Pierce will refresh over the summer and return to his old self. The smart move is returning for a POY-level senior year.
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Xaivian is NBA or bust. Iāve watched two extended YouTube documentaries on Lee, including interviews with his Korean-American mother, and heās not looking for a short-term NIL payday or risking a lesser role at a high major. He wants his Princeton degree - either in 4 years or in the ensuing NBA offseasons. According to AJBrodeurEnthusiast, he openly told people heās staying. Now I can see that changingā¦ but only for a late 1st/early 2nd draft promise from an NBA team, which seems unlikely.
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Dalen Davis is the Tiger whom I fully expect to transfer. He had high major offers out of high school and was a great 6th man as a freshman, but heās struggled mightily as a soph. He needs the ball in his hands to be worth the size he gives up on defense. If Lee comes back, Dalen is surely gone. Even if Lee goes, Davis would be wise to test the waters.
Im interested in the very knowledgeable folks here opinions if sam browneās game can work at power level?
His 42 last night is the fourth highest single game output in Quaker history
i happened to watch some of the 2h last night. 42 is pretty incredible in a college game!
admittedly havent seen him much besides against yale before
i think he shoots it well enough to get a look. he is more athletic than he looks.
but he doesnt have great size or strength and i dont know who he guards
its not cut and dry to me. the slajcert (sp?) kid isnt doing much at usc for maybe the same reasons but he is getting paid soā¦teams have a lot of roster turnover and need to fill spots
Guys- There are a few Ivy guys TODAY making variously $70,000 and $80,000. One other would have stayed for $50,000 and the money was there, but that school did noy pay due to the feel by the coach and AD that college kids in the Ivy should not be paid. There are also kids still around because of some coach creativity. Wolf didnāt need the money at all and that is not why he left. There are 3 āschoolsā who will pay, one way or the other.
James - I think you suggested that there was an attempt to put together a Yale collective but it didnāt materialize. Can you tell us why it didnāt happen? What were the specific obstacles in this case? Thanks.
Wolf left because he grew up a die-hard Michigan fan. Thatās why he entered the portal with a ādo not contactā tag.
big picture: a thin amd concentrated donor base and some complexity associated with financial aid programs are collectively a big hurdle.
the nil at say uga works bc a lot of alums and wanna be alums, who live and die the football team given small amts out of their biweekly paychecks.
this is true for most in the sec for ex.
we dont have that broad base. besides texas tech football (see all the press) its a hard sell to have a few donors finance your future.
you need a very broad base. most super wealthy ppl didnt get there by being profilgate. thats an editorial comment.
this is why the battle lines at a yale on demotion will be drawn in other sports with more alumni participation in tve funding where my editorial comment can be disproved
nil=collective.
they shouldnt be the same thing but have become so pre house settlement.
That all makes sense. The impact to financial aid is significant. The cash that Wolf or Mack got might turn a full aid kid into a full payer. Further, the current donor bases would become primary targets for NIL funding. In most cases, that threatens the cash that the athletic department already depends on. This conflict is a big reason schools donāt like it.
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Same issues at PENN, the big bucks guys dont give a shit about basketball, when they wrestled or play sprint football or were on track team. Now they own NBA teams
No one amongst existing annual fund donors really want to fund NIL at meaningful level every year.
Poetic justice that Brown and Princeton that are paying guys this year may both miss tournament.
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I agree. Giving a pretty good Ivy basketball player $75k to stay and finish middle of the league doesnāt sound satisfying. Why bother? Better off to go on an awesome vacation or buy a motorcycle. 
There is another school, as well. None of them have collectives, because all 8 Ivy Presidents have said no collectives, even though they canāt say no collectives!
Poster on the old board says Northwestern wants Ethan Roberts.
Slajchert is playing at USC as a grad transfer. Due to Ivy rules, he didnāt have the opportunity to return to Penn. Also on that USC team? Ex-Yalie Matt Knowling.
Clark seemsto have played his way up to 8 to 15 min a game, averaging 4 pts. Had a monster game against Northwestern, then gots lots of pt in next game, then back to the prior utilization level. But hes getting a very nice paycheck and experiencing the big time. Will be interesting to see if he trys to play somewhere professionally for a year or two or puts his Wharton degree to use right away.